does kinda work but what i was going for was having 2 animations working at the same time, one which moves the group relative to everything, and one which moves certain objects in the group relative to the group position, that way I can just apply 1 Right moving animation to the group, 1 Up moving animation to one object within the group and 1 Down moving animation to another object within the group, that way when I set all three animations to start at the same time I get 2 objects moving up/down and right at the same time.
While you could do that by just making a linear animation of what the result path would have been, it gets a lot more complicated if, say, I have the group moving in a circle, and objects moving in another circle within that group